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Frequently asked questions
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- 01I have been a consistent winning bettor on the greyhounds for the past 10 years and yes in the past it has been difficult for me to get on with bet size restrictions and needing to have multiple accounts with various bookmakers. However, now with the introduction of the minimum bet law for West Australian greyhound markets, I am able to get set for my desired stakes over my various accounts, and I have found there is still meat on the bone to say, for others to bet as well. As I find there is still value in the market at the current odds, why not offer my selections which I deem to be profitable in the long run to other individuals and help them make money betting on the greyhounds and in the process teach them that with correct discipline and staking, betting on the greyhounds is an extremely profitable long term investment if done correctly.
- 02I would say the vast majority of tipping services out there are scams, especially all the ones on X and Instagram, just posting their winning betting slips and showing no transparency and history of bets and results. So how are we different. Transparency. This service is 100% transparent with history of all bets and results shown on our website. Sample Size of Bets. I have been profitable betting on the W.A greyhounds for close to 10 years now, and have started this service in February 2022. You are able to see the history and results of all the bets since inception of this service, which is currently close to 1000 bets. Positive Return Or Your Next Month is Free for your first 3 months. I trust my analysis and my results and therefore offer a guarantee on your subscription for your first 3 months. So for your first 3 months, if any month isn't profitable, your next month is free. This is our commitment to providing a legitimate and transparent service.
- 03All Australian bookmakers must abide by the minimum bet law for W.A Greyhound Markets. Therefore, even if your account is promo banned or stake limited on sports or other markets, they must accept your WIN bets on the W.A greyhound markets up to the following amounts. The minimum bet law for West Australian Greyhounds kicked in from 19th of November 2021. For Western Australian Greyhound events, the following minimum bet level will be applicable, after 9.00am WST on race-day for day meetings or after 2.00pm WST on race-day where the first race of the meeting is 4.00pm WST or later. RACE TYPEBET TYPE Metropolitan Greyhound Races, In any one Win bet: to lose $750 Non-Metropolitan Greyhound Races. In any one Win bet: to lose $500 If for any reason you are unable to get set for these amounts on your account, just contact your bookmaker and tell them to "please ensure my account complies with the minimum bet law for greyhound markets in Western Australia."
- 04Previously we used a unit staking plan, but there was too much confusion over time with members so to make it easier going forward for staking and for displaying results from the start of 2026 the service will be implementing a "Bet to Profit" staking plan with a max stake of half the profit figure. All Results will be calculated from a Bet to Profit $500 with a maximum stake of $250. Your bet to profit figure is essentially whatever you are comfortable with and the max stake is always half of that figure. If I provide multiple selections in the same race I will state whether to back both to Profit $500 or just the main selection to profit $500 and the other selection as a small saver to profit say $125. A max stake of $250 will apply to ensure we are not over staking on short odds selections and analysis on my previous betting results shows this produces a greater long term POT. A simple method to calculate your stake is Profit Figure divided by (odds-1) For example: Greyhound priced at $4.4 500 / (4.4-1) = 147. Your stake would be $147. (If the selection wins you profit $500) Greyhound priced at $2.8 500 / (2.8-1) = 278 As this stake is over our max limit, your stake would be capped at $250. (If the selection wins you profit $450)
- 05As the minimum bet law kicks in at 2pm normally, we will aim to send out tips between 2pm WST to 1 hour before the start of Race 1. Selections will either be Win, Place, Same Race Multi (SRM) or Lay bets. This could also include multiple Win bets on different runners in the same race. For selections that I believe will drift in the market and there is no value in taking the current early prices at bookmakers. I will advise members to back it at BSP or Mid Tote. (Ideally half at BSP and half at Mid Tote to get the best average in the long term) This will allow everyone to be able to get on and not have to wait for closer to the start of the race, as the W.A races can run very late. Thus I will be assuming all members also have a Betfair account and know how to place bets at BSP. Any issues just send me a message.
- 06You will be notified on a private telegram chat and via email that a selection is released on the website. You can then view the tips by logging into your members portal on the website and clicking "Selections". The selections will be shown in the following format Date Track Name - Race Number # X - Selection Name Bet Type Bet to Profit $500 at a minimum price of $X.X Currently $X.X at the following bookmakers
- 07As I only bet on one meeting for the day either Cannington, Mandurah or Northam, I usually only provide 1 to 3 selections which I believe are of value (+EV) under my analysis.
- 08On average, selections will be sent out 3 - 4 days a week. There will be no strict minimum amount of days selections will be sent out, as I would prefer to only send out selections that I am strongly confident in that are +EV bets at the given odds. If there is nothing I like for the day no selections will be sent.
- 09This is a common question asked by people interested in joining the service and its pretty much varies every time. Sometimes the odds can shorten within like 5 min after odds are sent out and at other times the odds don't move for hours and may even drift out. This is a factor I am unable to control, as it all depends on how much members are betting, what time they are betting, what bookmakers they are betting with and if their accounts are flagged or not which would alert traders. I am aware that of course the odds will generally shorten on my selections hence I display the results of this service at Best Odds, 3rd Best Odds and at Betfair Starting Price. Previously I sent out tips directly through telegram, however I soon noticed that the chat was connected to automated betting software by some members, which allowed them to bet instantly once selections was sent out. Therefore, now tips are only viewable through the secure members portal after a CAPTCHA is completed to stop automated bots and give all members a fair chance to secure the best odds. With all selections I advise the minimum price you should bet the selection at, so even if you miss the best price I would advise you still place the bet if it is over the minimum price I stated in the email. If you miss the price totally and the selection firms under the minimum price I recommend you wait later closer to the jump, as usually when a bookmakers heavily firms the price early, the market percentage on the race is up in the 140% range which is not sustainable as they are hoping people continue to bet into that market and the selection at the reduced odds. I would advise you wait later closer to the jump. as when the race gets closer the bookmakers market will return to the average 120% range and the odds on the selection should drift out again. Don't panic and back "Unders" thinking you missed the price. Also, pay close attention to the Betfair starting price (BSP) as this is also a viable betting option and as you can see from the results page backing the selections via BSP is profitable as well. The price I provide with my selection is the minimum price I recommend you stake it at. So if you miss the price and the selection no longer drifts out I recommend you don't bet at the reduced odds as the selection is no longer value.
- 10Results will be updated daily in the results section of the website. The recorded odds in the results will be shown in 3 categories. Blue columns, Results from the best price offered by Australian wagering operators at the time the tips are sent out. Green column, Results from the Betfair starting price. (The BSP has been adjusted to take into account the 7% commission applied. W.A greyhounds commission has increased from 6% to 7% as of March 1st 2022.) Red column, Results from the 3rd best price offered by Australian wagering operators at the time the tips are sent out. The corresponding POT% will also be displayed for each category so you can see the importance of getting the best price and how it effects your results. On the right hand side of the results page I also show the importance of compounding and how you should increase your unit size as your bank grows. In the spreadsheet I do a simple, 10% increase in unit size as the bank increases by 10%. (vice versa, you should decrease your unit size by 10% if the bank decreases in value by 10%) From these columns you can see the power of compound growth as you can compare your overall bank size when keeping your unit size fixed in comparison to increasing your unit size as your bank grows.
- 11Born and raised in Perth W.A I have frequently visited the Cannington and Mandurah tracks and as I took betting more seriously I have created a database on all runners in W.A, focusing not only time specific data but also the greyhounds running styles and intricacies noticed in replays or whilst on track. Understanding and processing all this data I am able to map the race and in turn identify value runners in the market. It all comes down to time as it can be a full days work going over a meeting thoroughly, analysing the data, assessing track variations, watching video replays, etc. I have honed my skills at the W.A meetings and it has proven to be successful over the many years hence why I continue to stick to the W.A tracks. If I had more time in the day, yes I would expand to other tracks as well, but for now the W.A tracks have been treating me well.
- 12Please remember to gamble responsibly and bet within your limits. You need to ensure you bet with money you can afford to risk as although I am confident in my selections everyone will have losing periods over time. Variance is a factor in gambling and its how you manage this variance and losing periods which determines your success. The main thing is stick with the staking plan. You have set a bank which you manage. Just keep track of your bets and reduce your unit size if the bank decreases by 10%. Always keep your unit size at 1% of your bank. If your bank increases by 10%. Increase your unit size to reflect the new 1% of your bank. If your bank decreases by 10%. Decrease your unit size to reflect the new 1% of your bank. By keeping your unit size in proportion to your bank, it allows you to stay in the game, and ride out any periods of variance and losing streaks which may occur. I am confident in my selections and know that over time we will ride out these periods and from there recover these losses and grow our banks to new highs. Below are two great articles which explain in more detail about winning and losing cycles in betting and winning expectations. https://www.betfair.com.au/hub/education/racing-strategy/winning-and-losing-cycles/ https://www.betfair.com.au/hub/education/racing-strategy/winning-expectations/
- 13Yes, anyone can invest on the selections provided given that your bookmaker (betting service provider) allows you to bet on the Australian greyhound markets. The tracks we bet in are Cannington, Mandurah and Northam based in Western Australia. Having a Betfair account will also allow you to get involved, as you can see from our results that betting the selections at the Betfair Starting Price (BSP) also provides great long term results.
- 14Yes, you can cancel your subscription at any time. Your payment auto renewals every month up until you cancel your subscription. If you choose to cancel your subscription you will still continue to receive tips up until the date you have paid for. It is the customers responsibility to cancel their subscription if they choose no longer to be a member. You can do so by simply logging into your account on our website, then going to "My Subscriptions" and "Cancel Subscription".
- 15Before joining this service make sure you understand and are aware of winning expectations in being a profitable punter. Don't expect I have the magic 8 ball and every bet I send out will be a winner. I have had past members cancel their subscription after a couple days of non profitable tips and send me messages calling us a scam and "How can you even charge for these tips" and even as absurd as "I can win money more easily going to the casino." Or even after a couple of non-profitable months, messaging me asking what happened and if I have changed anything in my analysis. The fact is, not every bet is a winner and I know not every month will be profitable. But I still offer the "Positive Return Or Next Month Free Guarantee" to illustrate the legitimacy of this service. I trust my analysis and my results which are there for everyone to see and I know I will be profitable in the long term. Being profitable in this space of greyhounds betting is a long term investment. Yes, you have periods of downturn due to negative variance, and we don't hide any of those bad runs by displaying all our results. But in the long term, I know I have a proven edge over the market and you need to trust the process, and the profit will be there in the long term. I let my results speak for themselves. My "Win Strike Rate" on selections is usually in the 30-35% range and given the average odds on selections is in the $4 dollar range a healthy profit is made in the long term. (Win Strike Rate and Average odds is all shown at the top of the results spreadsheet.) Below are two great articles which goes in more detail about winning and losing cycles and winning expectations https://www.betfair.com.au/hub/education/racing-strategy/winning-and-losing-cycles/ https://www.betfair.com.au/hub/education/racing-strategy/winning-expectations/ Here is great quote from "Daniel O'Sullivan" and one every potential punter wanting to join this service should ask themselves “Do I really want to be a punter (and join this service)?” In my opinion there’s no more challenging or satisfying intellectual and psychological pursuit. But answering “yes” to that question means accepting the nature of the game. You need to have persistence and determination to work through inevitable losing runs and the wisdom to put big winning runs in perspective. If you can do that, then any goal you set for yourself as a punter is achievable.
- 16The odds in a greyhound race is just the probability assessed by the bookmaker of the dogs chances in winning the race. A greyhound at $3, is assessed by the bookmaker as a 1/3 (33%) chance of winning the race. Under my analysis if I assess the dog to be a 50% chance odds of $2, this is a value (+EV) bet and I will bet accordingly. In general the greater the expected value (EV) the larger unit size bet I will have. The Betfair starting price (BSP) gives a good representation of the winning chance of each dog in the race, as all punters have had their chance to bet with all factors taken into account. However, this should not be the sole factor in determining if you have a value bet, as I believe in certain situations there are aspects which are over bet by the general public creating value in other areas of the market. In general though if the odds you backed your selection is greater then the BSP, you have a value (+EV) bet and in the long term you have a winning selection method.
- 17I recommend all members to keep a track of all there bets in a spreadsheet. I highly recommend using the following spreadsheet found on https://www.aussportsbetting.com/tools/betting-tracker-excel-worksheet/ (https://www.aussportsbetting.com/tools/betting-tracker-excel-worksheet/) Also available in google sheets format as well https://www.aussportsbetting.com/tools/google-sheets-betting-tracker/ (https://www.aussportsbetting.com/tools/google-sheets-betting-tracker/)
- 18Yes, a winning bet can be a bad bet and a losing bet can be a good bet. How you ask. Say you like a dog, opens at $4 with the bookies and you see it get backed into $2.2. You notice this market movement and also like the dog to win the race, so you then back it at $2.2. Before the jump as the bookmakers market percentages come down the odds move out to like $2.8 and it Betfair SP's at $3. The dog easily wins the race and you pocket the profit. In the long run backing selections in this manner will lead to overall loss. You backed the dog at unders, at $2.2 when its true value was at $3 (the Betfair SP). This is a bad bet in the long term and if you continue to bet in this manner you would be a losing punter. If you have noticed the value early when the dog was at $4 and backed it, this would have been a good bet, as you have achieved a +EV value bet, since its true odds was $3. Same can be said the other way around. If you notice a dog to be of value and it's at $2.5 with the bookies, you back it at $2.5 and before jump it gets smashed across the board and is around $1.8 with the bookies and Betfair SP's at $1.85. It then loses and gets pipped on the line. Even though you lost the bet, this was a good bet, as you have achieved an overs bet +EV and even though you lost the bet, if you continue to make these bets in the long term you will be a profitable bettor. This is something you need to look out for and is why I always compare my selections and the odds I have bet the selection at in comparison to the Betfair SP to ensure I am getting a value bet. Take note the Betfair SP price is Betfair's market close to 100% and if you take the Betfair SP price you need to take into account the commission also you need to pay from that bet. (From 1st March 2022 this is 7% for W.A greyhounds), so getting close to the Betfair SP or definitely over the SP price is a good guide, that you are making good and long term profitable bets. In the results section of the website I show the BSP and the BSP with commission applied and also the perceived edge when comparing it to the Betfair SP.
- 19POT - Profit on turnover is the profit on how much we have turned over. For example let's say you start the year by putting $500 into your betting account. During the year you make no further deposits or withdrawals. At the end of the year your total bets have been $30,000 and your account now has $3500 in it. Profit = $3500-$500 = $3000 POT = $3000/$30000 * 100 = 10% For a more detailed analysis this website below explains it well. https://insights.footballadvisor.net/2020/03/04/betting-strategy/is-profit-on-turnover-pot-key-to-successful-betting/
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